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Tracy Mitchell Griggs's avatar

Generally speaking, if we removed men from ALL positions of power and decision making and got rid of religion, 90 percent of the planet’s problems would just disappear.

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This is a specious argument from the outset.

First, did Don Lemon - or any of the protestors - approach the pastor in private, first, to hear his reasoning for what he was doing that was so objectionable? Had they done so, they would have quickly realized that this pastor was not an ICE agent - and so even insofar as being an officer of the law is itself an inherent evil, they would have been confronting the wrong person.

Second, did Don Lemon - or any of the protestors - request to meet with him with two or three other brothers and sisters in order to talk through the concerns they had about simply being involved in a government office? Was there any evidence that the pastor on the board had been directly involved in anything that was illegal or morally objectionable in an agency that has existed and operated legally and without broad objection right through the Bush, Obama, and Biden administrations?

Third, Matthew 18 is not about simply bursting into a congregation of which you have no part and then shutting it down. If that were so, we would relaunch the religious wars between Protestants and Catholics, where the objections go much deeper than incidental social issues to ones of eternal, salvational significance. The bringing before the congregation is done by the congregation in a way done "decently and in order" for the sake of "restoring such a one in a spirit of gentleness"; it is not done for the sake of the public even; it is done by the church for the sake of the church.

There is no evidence that the elder in that church had acted in a way that was more out of line than any other officer of the law operating in the normal course of his or her duties. He just happens to serve in a department that you find objectionable, and that is not the same as being caught in an act of sin. Even Christ had no objections to the Roman soldiers who followed him continuing to be Roman soldiers; John the Baptist admonition's only that they not individually use their position to oppress others.

This is not a matter of courts regulating religious speech; it is a matter of courts guaranteeing the continued worship of God in a free manner, perfectly in accord with the teaching of Romans 13: 1-7

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